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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:21 pm    Post subject: Two questions concerning Masonic ritual music op.113 Reply with quote

I have two doubts about this wonderful piece:

1. What was the exact order of the numbers composed in 1927?

2. According my information the number 11, "Suur’ olet, Herra", was added for the edition of 1936. The original version of this work, "Den höga himlen" JS58a, composed in 1927, was scored for mixed choir a capella, and the version JS58b with the finnish text and arranged for male choir and organ (like opus 113 nº11). So, in that edition the arrangement wasn't by Sibelius, there is a mistake about the the date of this piece's addition, or Sibelius made the arrangement in 1936 or before this.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello David,
yes, this beautiful work has a mysterious history.

The 8 numbers composed in 1926-27 are (after the autographs):
Avaushymni
Suloinen aate
Kulkue ja hymni: Näätkö kuinka hennon yrtin
Kulkue ja hymni: Ken kyynelin
On kaunis maa
Salem
Varje själ, som längtan bränner
Marche funèbre

These numbers were first published in 1936 with the addition of
Suur' olet, Herra as No. 8 und Marche funèbre changed to No. 9. I think the published version of Suur' olet, Herra with organ is not from Sibelius himself but from Marshall Kernochan (anyone knows details?).

The nowadays known version with 12 numbers was first published in 1950.

Hope I answered your question.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that's right, thank you very much!

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