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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 8:43 am    Post subject: Sibelius at 2014 Proms Reply with quote

Just been glancing at the 2014 proms. At a Saturday matinee [9th August] at 3.0pm John Storgards conducts 'Rakastava' with Lapland Chamber Orchestra. On Monday [11th August] at 7.0pm Thomas Sondergard conducts 'The Swan of Tuonela' and Fifth Symphony. with BBC Nat. Orch. of Wales. Broadcast on BBC 4 on August 21st.
On Thursday [August 14th] John Storgards conducts 'Finlandia' and second Symphony.
Carl Nielsen gets just one outing on Monday [August 11th with Fifth Symphony under Thomas Sondergard. Certainly I hope for a better showing next year for these two great symphonists. Incidentally a certain Gustav Mahler is having seven of his symphonies performed this season. I suggest that the Promenade Concerts are renamed 'The Mahler Festival'-- Laughing kp

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least there's Rakastava to accompany the 'greatest hits'... and better greatest hits than nothing at all.

No doubt Mahler will soon yield to the unstoppable wave of Proms themed on Doctor Who, Wallace & Gromit and so on. Great as TV programmes, rubbish as Proms. How about a 'Mrs Brown's Boys' Prom?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I enjoyed the Prom last evening with Thomas Sondergard and BBC Nat. Orch. Wales. I quite enjoyed the first half as well. It was good to have music by Peter Maxwell Davies and Walton. Maxwell Davies Suite from Act 2 of 'Caroline Mathilde' was most interesting. Davies shocked the avant-garde movement in the 1970's when he declared Sibelius as an influence on his first symphony. I also heard him conduct a fine performance of Sibelius 4 some years ago. William Walton was another committed Sibelian and it was good to hear a splendid account of his violin concerto played by virtuoso James Ehnes. Interesting interval discussion about Sibelius's response to nature given by Daniel Grimley and others.
Now to the second half. Very atmospheric account of 'The Swan of Tuonela' with excellent cor anglais. Sondergard's account of the Sibelius fifth was somewhat hit and miss. We had some lovely woodwind playing in the first movement and excellent contribution from the brass with those little fanfares. But the transition from the first part to the 'Scherzo' was too low-key for me. As the strings finally come to the fore with dramatic brass, we should feel that a door is being opened on a brave new world. Yes some great moments but ultimately some lack of vision. Also the timpani were hardly audible. I did not find fault with the second movement which contained moments of pure magic. The finale is always destined to bring the house down and Sondergard and his orchestra delivered. I suppose in this music I always compare things to Celibidache and Barbirolli who were both pretty special in this symphony. It was good that the maestro spaced out the six final chords at the end, but again no timps!!--kp

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew B wrote:


No doubt Mahler will soon yield to the unstoppable wave of Proms themed on Doctor Who, Wallace & Gromit and so on. Great as TV programmes, rubbish as Proms. How about a 'Mrs Brown's Boys' Prom?


I quite agree Andrew. No doubt I will be accused of being old fashioned, snobbish and reactionary, but correct me if I'm wrong--The Proms were founded in 1895 by Robert Newman with Henry Wood as regular conductor. The aim was to bring serious music to the masses whilst including a little lighter fare. But now, increasingly the field has opened to just about everything from Wallace and Gromit through to Count Basie big Band swing, jazz and musicals etc. Now I've nothing against any of this genre but the Proms are not the place for it. God knows the number of fine and neglected composers who never get a look in at the proms. I'm pretty sure that Wood and Sargent will be turning over in their graves at current developments. Well I'm at it, here is another personal gripe. I've been watching 'Proms Extra' on Saturday evenings on BBC2 hosted by Katie Durham. The other week Sakari Oramo was a guest. Ah, I thought possibility of Sibelius being mentioned. Of course it was not to be! Mr. Oramo discussed Mahler with background to the Masters ninth symphony. Fair enough, the maestro is not a one composer specialist. Last night composer Peter Maxwell Davies was on the programme. Ah, I thought possibilities of Sibelius being mentioned [We had two proms last week featuring Sibelius symphonies [2 and 5] all of which were paired with music by Maxwell Davies. Surprise surprise, the discussion centred around Gustav Mahler! Durham asking about the composers sixth symphony. It was just not my night so I switched off to await 'Dads Army' Now that would make for a great Prom!!--kp

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Dad's Army terms, I guess Sibelius would be Captain Mainwaring (by virtue of hair style if nothing else). Maybe Bruckner as Private Godfrey? Rosa Newmarch would have been a good likeness for Mrs Fox. Elgar as Captain Square. Grieg, perhaps, as Jones. And Mahler as... Warden Hodges?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very funny Andrew. Any thoughts on who could play Private Pike--kp Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, I get where you guys are coming from, and I admittedly know very little about the whole thing (I'm much more of a recording person than a concert person0 but when you consider the audiance-participated 'Fantasia on Sea Songs' among other things every time in the final, then it's pretty clear there's at least SOME fun going on in the whole thing...
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Has someone taken notice of my recent plea for a mention of Sibelius in the Proms Extra programme. Take a look at the programme that went out yesterday with guests including composer Mark Anthony Turnage. JS's Fifth Symphony also features in 'Chord of the week] Very Happy kp

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