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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 9:03 am    Post subject: STORGARDS SIBELIUS SYMPHONY CYCLE, MANCHESTER 2013 Reply with quote

Its great news that Finnish maestro John Storgards is giving the complete Sibelius symphonies at Manchesters Bridgewater Hall next year with the BBC Phil. Here are the dates.

THURSDAY 6TH JUNE

Symphony No.1
Symphony No.5

SATURDAY 8TH JUNE
Symphony No.4
Symphony No.2

THURSDAY 13TH JUNE

Symphony No.3
Symphony No.6
Symphony No.7

This symphony cycle will also be recorded by Chandos Records.

Also, this season on 27th October at the same venue, these forces will give Sibelius's wonderful tone poem 'The Wood Nymph'. concert also includes Beethoven's 'Emperor' and Nielsen No.2

I've already made notes in my diary Very Happy kp

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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got hold of it a couple of years back. Excellent accounts.--kp

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely sounds as if a trip to Manchester is on the cards!

(I don't, however, enjoy Zimmermann's version of the Concerto at all. Despite its technical brilliance I find it unidiomatic and insufficiently thought-through, with nothing new to say about the music and a number of features that become very irritating even after a few hearings. The Wood-Nymph as played on this disc has good and bad points; The Bard is ruled out of court by the elephantine harp balance - whatever were the engineers thinking?)

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Humm might to have to return to the city of my birth for a week plus. Already warned schoolfriend in Bolton of possible visit.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glorious day for the first of Storgards/BBC Phil Sibelius Symphony cycle. I did manage to attend the concert preview interview with the maestro. The Phil's General manager asked about Storgards approach to conducting all the symphonies. Of course for most Finns its in their blood. I managed to get a question in about the three fragments that Storgards and the Helsinki PO played a couple of years back. The maestro remarked that the longest of the three particularly made a deep impression, but as we on the forum think, its never ever likely to be reconstructed. I can report a very impressive concert. No 1 had tremendous energy and precision and what a night for timpani lovers especially in this performance. It reminded me of A. Collins recording from the 1950's. The strings sang gloriously in the finale. A splendid start to the cycle even if slightly bombastic at times!
The fifth Symphony closed the concert which was being broadcast. The overall shape of the huge first movement impressed and the bassoon solo was haunting. Listening to the second movement I asked myself what other composer has used pizzicato so evocatively. Great horns in the finale but could have been slightly less staccato in phrasing. Has the great brass swan hymn builds up I was struck by how Sibelius has the strings fall silent for a few bars. When they do resume, the music is all the more powerful. A tremendous climax then but the final hammer blows could have been more widely spaced. Looking forward to the final concert on 13th June--kp

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sadly I didn't hear the concert but I'm very pleased that there weren't any wimpy timpy on display in No. 1. These days people seem to find any and every excuse to hide this crucial timp part in the background - claiming inter alia that anything louder wouldn't be in good taste. Who was it that said that good taste is the enemy of creativity?


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Wow- have just caught some of this on iPlayer (be quick!)
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--Pete, you weren't wrong! Phenomenal.
I can genuinely say that 'there's nothing nice about Storgårds' Sibelius 1' and mean that as a tremendous compliment.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The final concert in the Storgards/BBC Phil. Sibelius symphony cycle [broadcast live] opened with the third. I'm probably being hyper-critical here but the opening Allegro Moderato was [in my view] a tad too quick. Having said that Storgard certainly brought out all the latent energy in the score. The horns in great form and again 'up front' timpani. The final coda could have been more rapt, but still very satisfying. The exquisite second movement I thought was a touch broader than some of Storgards previous accounts and no bad thing. The finale was exiting but I thought slightly forced at times.
With the pure Spring water of the sixth, the BBC Phil. strings shone and again even in this the most restrained of the seven--moments of immense power from brass and timps. The first part of the second movement was slightly rushed and perhaps short on Sibelian retinence, but the second part with chirpy woodwind and scampering strings was most effective. The third movement was a delight, perhaps the closest that JS comes to a March in his symphonic cannon. Undoubtedly in the finale Sibelius demonstrates a dazzling mastery of the orchestra and again wonderful timpani and brass in the 'storm' section. The final Coda brought a tear to my eyes.
The seventh symphony was like a great planet in orbit, at one point serene and hymn-like and then imperceptibly hurtling with blistering energy. Great trombone sounding importantly through the orchestra. Perhaps the final climax was over-worked slightly [am I getting old!] its not Mahler's 8th. The closing pages were moving and profound. On this form all seems well for the upcoming recorded cycle.--kp

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:26 am    Post subject: STORGARDS SIBELIUS SYMPHONY CYCLE, MANCHESTER 2013 Reply with quote

I am now back at home in West Sussex from my northern tour with forum access via PC. My tour included Storgards pre concert talk and all thre concerts of the cycle. This was my first visit to the Bridgewater despite being born several years before it was built three blocks away.

One point I picked up from the lead in to a question from the BBC Phil manager during the pre concert talk was that Chandos set due for issue in September was being recored separately in the same fortnight. All the evidence suggests at the BBC Phil's rehearsal and recording space at the BBC Studios in Media City.

I was impressed with the cellos and double basses of the BBC Philharmonic when I heard them at last years proms do the Third Symphony. They contined to impress throughout this cycle. I would agree with Peter about the performance of the third at the Bridgewater. It was as through the orchestra was not warmed up being first piece on and Storgards was driving them too hard in compensation. The performance of the third at last years proms was far better. It will be interesting to hear "which version" we get on CD I suspect the former high standard one.

However the rest of the cycle I thought were all fine performances, well controled tempor, excellant low strings, brass and woodwinds. The violins were not as sweet as the best UK orchestra's I have heard. My favorite perfomance this time was the 6th but if the 5th or 4th where the only version of those symphonies I ever heard again I would not complain.

If I was to compare this with my memoiroies of the Kamu Lahti Festival 2011 cycle, I would say Kamu greater techical perfection; Storgrads more pwer and emotion. Lahti better acoustics but Storgards gains from the full 60 string orachestra.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:38 am    Post subject: just sayin' Reply with quote

Bridgewater hall has some great acoustics.I think the tempos on 6 were spot on.Not being religious at all I thought Janne S and Paavo B were watching that performance from some more important dimension..Storgårds told me that same thing.I hope you liked what you heard.I was leading the double basses for the cycle Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: just sayin' Reply with quote

arenan wrote:
Bridgewater hall has some great acoustics.I think the tempos on 6 were spot on.Not being religious at all I thought Janne S and Paavo B were watching that performance from some more important dimension..Storgårds told me that same thing.I hope you liked what you heard.I was leading the double basses for the cycle Smile


Great to hear from you again arenan and indeed great double basses. Interesting that you touch on religion. I've been writing a piece for the UK Sibelius Society 'Religion and Sibelius' so its been very much on my mind--kp

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somebody had told me that there was a Finnish double bass player... small (forum) world, indeed!

I didn't hear all of the performances, sadly, but I was impressed by what I heard. I didn't agree with everything (e.g. second half of the first movement and the very last chords of the Fifth) but I truly admired the energy and directness of the performances. Looking forward to the recordings... (I've heard that he'll do a Nielsen cycle too.)

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Storgards is to be applauded for including a rare performance of Sibelius's 'The Bard' at the Bridgewater Hall, Manchester on Saturday 26th October, 13. Again with the superb BBC Philharmonic. This masterpiece is still gravely neglected. I note that the concert closes with Nielsen's sixth symphony, a work that I still find problematic-kp

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm hearing the Storgårds recordings now. Pretty good! A surprise.

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Very interesting interview with Storgards about his Sibelius cycle and more--kp

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