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Andrew B Soloist


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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:15 am Post subject: |
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Bach and Beethoven I can agree with.
As for the third one I don't mind as long as it's NOT Brahms.
Probably my problem but an insurmountable one, I'm afraid. _________________
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some guy Subscriber

Joined: 17 May 2007 Posts: 21 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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"The three B's," unlike a lot of other phrases, actually has an known origin. It was Peter Cornelius who coined it. The three?
Bach
Beethoven
Berlioz
The master misappropriator, Hans von Bülow, who was a big Brahms nut as well as a big Wagner nut, substituted Brahms for Berlioz.
I still can't believe that that actually worked. Von Bülow was a bigger name than Cornelius, but still... |
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kullervopete Conductor in Residence


Joined: 08 Jun 2007 Posts: 1121 Location: Bury Lancs UK
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:03 am Post subject: |
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Edward Elgar : He wears his heart on his sleeve, but his Enigma Variations can be compared to the 'Greats' and the Cello Concerto rivals Dvoraks great example.
Antonin Dvorak : Wonderful melodies, great orchestration and he always shares the music equally across the orchestra.--kullervopete. _________________ Peter Frankland |
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Kurkikohtaus Site Admin


Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Posts: 930 Location: Praha, CZ
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:40 am Post subject: |
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The first post in this thread has been updated based on recent voting. |
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dob63@yahoo.com Listener
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:54 am Post subject: |
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Mozart.
The others dont even come close.
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Kurkikohtaus Site Admin


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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:06 am Post subject: |
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Very interesting, only now we have received our first vote for Mozart!
The first post has been updated. |
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Saturnus Musician


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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Bartók
So here's a quick off-thread question: who ARE the three B's?
Bach Beethoven and Bartók of course  |
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Kurkikohtaus Site Admin


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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Your vote for Bartok has been added in the first post.
Andrew B will certainly agree with you on your choice of B's, considering who you omitted.
Berlioz, Bruckner and Britten, anyone?
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Saturnus Musician


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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| some guy wrote: |
| "The three B's," unlike a lot of other phrases, actually has an known origin. It was Peter Cornelius who coined it. The three? |
The 18th century musicologist Johann Mattheson talked about the three H's, Händel, Hasse and Heinichen. The roots of this idea (three masters united by the first letter of their last name) seem to lie deep in the German musicology tradition. |
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World Violist Concertmaster


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Moldyoldie Orchestra Member - Section Leader


Joined: 08 Apr 2008 Posts: 140 Location: Motown, USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Dmitri Shostakovich -- drama, gravitas, wit, pathos, subversion, name it!
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Your vote has been added to the first post -- Kurki |
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World Violist Concertmaster


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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm... I'm almost surprised that Ravel isn't on here, he always struck me as being kinda similar to Sibbe...
That would be my other other... if there is an other other. (not Debussy, either, though I do really like his music too) |
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Tapkaara Soloist


Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 725 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Ravel and Sibbe similar? I don't see the connection. I see Ravel as the more accessible version of Debussy. _________________ "Music is not philosophy."
-- Akira Ifukube
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World Violist Concertmaster


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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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It's a bit of a stretch, sure, but still. I can't help thinking they're a bit similar. I suppose I was thinking more along the lines of Tapiola, which I think is at least decently similar to Ravel; it uses heavy "dissonances" and such to paint a picture or something in the mind's eye (because, let's face it, Tapiola isn't exactly "consonant" in some places).
I guess it was just a very random thought of mine; I do that a lot.  |
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kullervopete Conductor in Residence


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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:02 am Post subject: |
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It is interesting comparing 'Daybreak' from Ravel's 'Daphnis et Cloe' with Sibelius's 'Nightride and sunrise'.
Both composers conjure up a fantastic vision. Ravel's rather 'Mediterranean' and Sibelius with a rich 'Nordic' glow. I dont know what Sibelius thought of Ravel's music, but it seems that the French master spoke highly of a number of Sibelius's works.
I would guess that when Sibelius spoke of other composers offering cocktails of many colours, whereas he gave pure spring water, he was directing his comment at composers such as Ravel.--kullervopete. _________________ Peter Frankland |
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hangos Subscriber

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_________________ Martin |
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World Violist Concertmaster


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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Kurkikohtaus wrote: |
| Berlioz, Bruckner and Britten, anyone? |
I would rather like this list were it not for the Berlioz inclusion... never particularly liked his works... Boulez? kidding... |
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Kurkikohtaus Site Admin


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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:26 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for your vote, hangos, I've moved Bartok up in the first post. |
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