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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, sure: in Finnish it's necessary to pronounce the double l longer, thus 'ol-lut' rather than 'o-lut'

Similar problems can occur, embarrassingly, with some names. I recall for instance:
- a guy whose first name was Veli-Matti (veli is otherwise the Finnish word for 'brother', so something like 'Brother-Martin'); unfortunately he was referred to as Velli-Matti ('Porridge-Martin');
- the BBC spelling the name of the singer Vesa-Matti Loiri as 'Vessa-Matti' (='Toilet-Martin');
- best/worst of all, when poor Raimo Laukka stood in at the last moment for an indisposed singer at a performance of Kullervo in London. It was at such short notice that nothing could be printed; so some embarrassed LSO person came on stage and explained that the baritone solo would be sung by... er.. Raimo... Luukakka. (I think Raimo was still offstage and hope he didn't hear it!) I trust I can rely on arenan or Harri M to translate that one for you...

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

... or use your imaginations ... not far-off in English! Razz

(Boy has this thread gone down the ... er ... toilet.)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my poor thread is now flush with kaka.

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the discussion on The Oceanides still fresh in my mind
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its worth remembering that Sibelius triumphed in America both as a composer and as a conductor.
It is reported that at the rehearsals in Carnegie Hall, Sibelius dressed in a spotless white flannel suite, mounted the podium to the applause of the seventy five hand picked musicians of the Festival orchestra. When J S turned to the new piece, Stoeckel wrote 'At first they did not understand it at all from what say said. The next morning, after having run through it three times, they were thoroughly delighted with it and remarked that the beauty grew with each rehearsal.
It was reported by Olin Downes and others after the premier, that at one point in the score around letter P, Sibelius used to crouch very low on the podium. Aparently in Gothenburg there is a score which just before the powerful climax [four bars before Q] has been annotated 'Jump up like Sibelius'.--kullervopete.

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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always admired conductors who dare to wear white... I was thinking of a white jacket for promenade concerts, but so far, I haven't built up sufficient courage!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sibelius' recording of the Andante Festivo is now on Youtube (at least, I think it is... 6 minutes), and this is my first time having heard it. And I thought the snippets from the Nupen documentary (apparently the fake anyway) were powerful--this is indescribable.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A unique document, yes - such a pity that we don't have more examples of his conducting.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

World Violist, thank you so much for posting the You Tube link. I have just listened and was transfixed by it! I have several recordings off BBC radio 3, and one CD of the "fake" recording, and as you say, this is also a very moving performance, but I was gutted when I discovered that they were fakes, so it was wonderful to finally get to hear the genuine version. Also watched / listened to Kurkikohtaus' recording - it also brought up the goosebumps!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris Taylor wrote:
Also watched / listened to Kurkikohtaus' recording - it also brought up the goosebumps!!

... crane bumps, actually.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kurkikohtaus wrote:
Chris Taylor wrote:
Also watched / listened to Kurkikohtaus' recording - it also brought up the goosebumps!!

... crane bumps, actually.


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